Look, I am real big when it comes to the environment and the way the entire world treats our planet is appalling and yes, I hate seeing those plastic bags hanging from trees like some kind of ghetto fruit, but this idiotic bill by city council is just another useless waste of bullshit that solves nothing and does nothing, except take more money out of people’s pockets. If anyone thinks that this bill will make our communities cleaner, well, are the same people that think Senator Leroy Comrie is a top notch politician and the Rev. Floyd Flake really is a man of the cloth.

Want to do something really far fetched, ENFORCE LITTER LAWS, that is what they were made for.  Just like communities have those gazillion traffic police officers walking around looking for illegally parked cars, have litter police and have them out in full force. Issuing summons to businesses, apartment buildings, homes and of course people who think of nothing about throwing down a dirty diaper on the street. The money the city would make on this could be huge and actually make a difference.

Yes, I am for cleaning up the environment, but not with stupid shit that does nothing, solves nothing and does not make a damn bit of difference.

Chalk it up to City Council for another brilliant idea.


The Daily News:

5-cent bag surcharge bill passes vote in City Council

Updated: Friday, May 6, 2016, 3:23 AM
Council Member Margaret Chin is overcome with joy as the bag legislation is passed. William Alatriste/City Council –Council Member Margaret Chin is overcome with joy as the bag legislation is passed.

New Yorkers will have to fork over five cents for a plastic or paper bag at the store after the City Council voted Thursday to impose the fee.

The bill passed, 28 to 20, after an impassioned floor debate, narrowly dividing the Council where supporters said it would help the environment, but opponents called it an unfair burden on struggling families.

Pols originally proposed a ten cent fee, but cut the price in half to gain support. Stores will keep the money they charge.


“We all know plastic bags are a problem. We see them in our trees, our streets, our parks, our beaches. They clog up our storm drains,” said Councilman Brad Lander (D-Brooklyn), one of the chief sponsors.

“It’s no secret this bill has opponents – and how could it not? It works by irritating us into changing our behavior and remembering to bring reusable bags.”

The fee is set to go into effect Oct. 1. After a six month grace period, businesses that don’t charge the fee will face fines of $250 to $500. The nickel is technically a minimum, so individual stores could choose to charge more.

NYC PAPERS OUT. Social media use restricted to low res file max 184 x 128 pixels and 72 dpi Julia Xanthos/New York Daily News –Councilman Eric Urlich spoke out against the fee, saying it makes already-expensive New York City even less affordable.

New Yorkers use a whopping 9.37 billion disposable bags each year, costing the city $12.5 million to haul 91,000 tons of bags to landfills.

Supporters predict the fee will cut plastic bag use by 60% to 90%, like it has in other places it’s been imposed, and reduce solid waste by 60-90,000 tons a year.

But opponents say it’s wrong for the city to push policies that will drive up costs and whack low income residents hardest.

“New York is one of the most expensive places to live in the country,” said Councilman Eric Ulrich (R-Queens). “What we’re doing today is making it even less affordable.”

Foes also charged the policy was unlikely to achieve its goal of cutting waste – and objected to directing so much cash into the pockets of merchants.

“The fee is without a doubt regressive,” said Councilman Vincent Gentile (D-Brooklyn). “The cost of buying essential groceries will increase for every New Yorker. Instead of changing consumers’ behavior, this bill will only increase the constantly surging cost of living in New York City.”

Council Member Brad Lander, alongside elementary school students and environmental groups, rallied for the bag surcharge on the steps of City Hall. Richard Harbus/for New York Daily News –Council Member Brad Lander, alongside elementary school students and environmental groups, rallied for the bag surcharge on the steps of City Hall.

Council minority leader Steve Matteo called it a “dangerous precedent” for the government to mandate a privately-charged fee, and predicted it would drive his Staten Island constituents to shop in New Jersey.

“If it sounds like a tax, it looks like a tax, it acts like a tax – it’s a tax. It’s a tax that hurts my constituents, a tax that will take more money out of their pockets, and adding insult to injury will give that money to a private business,” he said.

Supporters shot back that no one will be forced to cough up extra money – they can just decline a bag.

“The goal of the bill is not to charge a single cent for a plastic bag. What we want is more New Yorkers bringing a reusable bag, or to think about whether they even need one,” said Councilwoman Margaret Chin (D-Manhattan).

The fee will cover all retail stores, including grocery and clothing stores, but will not apply to takeout food at restaurants.

Customers using food stamps will be exempt, as well as special bags for produce and meat bags inside stores, and medicine bags from pharmacy counters. Wine and liquor stores, which are covered by different state laws, are also off the hook.

Demonstrators rallied in favor of the fee, which adds a 5-cent surcharge to plastic and paper bags in shops around the city. Richard Harbus/for New York Daily News –Demonstrators rallied in favor of the fee, which adds a 5-cent surcharge to plastic and paper bags in shops around the city.

Similar charges have been imposed in cities including Washington, DC, Los Angeles, San Francisco, and Seattle. The city plans to host reusable bag giveaways before the fee kicks in.

Council Speaker Melissa Mark-Viverito, who supported the bill and called plastic bags an “environmental hazard,” admitted she doesn’t yet use reusable bags but plans to save some pennies by changing her ways.

“I will have a motivation to use reusable bags, and I’m more than happy to do that,” she said. “I definitely have a ways to go on the use of plastic bags.”

Mayor de Blasio said he’ll sign the bill.

“The Council’s legislation strikes the right balance, reducing reliance on single-use bags and incentivizing the use of reusable bags, while safeguarding consumers with some logical exemptions to protect vulnerable New Yorkers,” he said.




  1. First off, that stupid incompetent woman above was partially responsible for and whose willful negligence led to the opportunistic deed dealing involving the nursing home in the L.E.S., which was about to make some predatory developer 100 million dollars richer and some dicknose lobbyists and shyster lawyers wealthier as well.

    And now with this new bullshit tax on the poor, which the city and it’s faux progressive officials are trying to drive into the ocean for lack of affordable places left to live in. What’s interesting and stupefying about this law is the amount of exemptions involved? I thought if climate change is going to be stopped or at least curbed if it has to involve EVERYONE. So why the selective enforcement? Especially since the biggest distributors of plastic bags and the majority that sully the trees like xmas ornaments are restaurants, pharmacies and liquor stores. And especially motherfucking food trucks. It’s abundantly clear that yet again the city cares more about the finances and needs of the transients, the tourists and the foodie hipshits and the tower people. For these are the places they frequent the most and a lot of shopping is done by fresh direct, amazon or app delivery services.

    The people actually use these store bags for good reason and to save money from buying brand name bags for refuse and to pick up their dogs. This tax is basically fucking over the working people, homeowners, poor and elderly people, because these are the people who still shop at supermarkets. And it’s only the supermarket that is getting targeted for this.

    A nickel still goes a long way in this town, especially since the cost of living here is now at apocalyptic levels where you have to choose between paying the rent and buying food. These elected dumbshits only found out the value of a nickel from the undeserved raises they gave themselves and the funds they tried to launder trying to get upstate seats.

    We are the people who have to pay for the sins and overlooked crimes of a century of pollution and now the causes and resultant damages of extreme weather conditions created by oil and energy companies and corporate manufacturing. Sure they payed fines, but it didn’t stop their wanton behavior and habits. And this unnecessary new burden on regular new yorkers isn’t going to change shit or even stop the warming of the planet, which is breaking records annually. Recall the hottest year recorded was 2014, only to be broken by last year.

    yeah, this is going to stop it. get a grip shitty council (those who voted and raised their arms in glory afterwards) and shove these nickels up your tight asses.


  2. Let’s not forget about the 5 cent on recycle bottles and cans. Just wanted to point out that NYC has mandatory recycling. So what are we paying 5 Cent for? All bull crap.


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